RUM, ROMANISM, AND REBELLION: THE ELECTION OF 1884

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  1. jerrib
  2. Mugwump53
  3. FortBrooke1824
  4. animalspirit
  5. Mugwump53
  6. sophie86

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Top 1.   Sep 26, 2000 6:51 PM

» jerrib - John

Just found this and decided to read it. I was not aware Mugwumps was an Indian term for chief - thought it meant a fence-sitter!

Sorry I haven't been around much. Trying to catch up this evening.

By the way, enjoyed this scandalous article.

Jerri

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Top 2.   Sep 26, 2000 7:17 PM

» Mugwump53 - Sanitized Version

Gald you enjoyed this article. It was one of my favorites. Of course, I had to clean it up a little bit.

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Top 3.   Jul 30, 2002 11:47 AM

» FortBrooke1824 - Outstanding writing

I can't express enough how much i enjoy your articles. Ma Ma wheres my Pa and little things like that really make it worthwhile in my opinion.
From reading your articles and from what information that i have gathered elsewhere i can see a real irony here. It seems likely that the two most bitter elections were that of 1876 and 1884. I find it somewhat ironic that the same man would be involved in both of them. Thomas A. Hendricks was Tildens vice-president and lost. He was also Clevelands vice-president in 1884. Although he would die in office shortly after elected. My question would be would fill his shoes for the rest of the term?

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Top 4.   Jul 30, 2002 2:02 PM

» animalspirit - quick answer

In response to message posted by FortBrooke1824:


My question would be would fill his shoes for the rest of the term?

Vice Presidents were never replaced until passage of the Bayh-Javits 25th Constitutional amendment in the 1960s. The Speaker of the House (or whoever was prescribed in legislation) would be next in line for the presidency for the remainder of the term

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Top 5.   Jul 30, 2002 4:07 PM

» Mugwump53 - Re: quick answer

In response to message posted by RussHicks:


At the time Hendricks died, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate was next in line. That was Senator John Sherman of Ohio.

The Presidential Succession Act of 1886 changed that. For the rest of Cleveland's first term (1886 to 1889) the Secretary of State was next in line. That was Thomas Bayard of Delaware.

The Prsidential Succession Act of 1947 put Congressional leaders back in the line of succession (they had been removed in 1886) with the Speaker of the House of Representatives coming after the Vice Prsident and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate coming after the Speaker. The reasons for this change are explained in detail in my article "The Presidential Line of Succession: Who's Next" published on February 25, 2000.

You can find this article at:

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/4996...

Thanks for providing the answer to his question Russ. Always good to have you participating here.

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Top 6.   May 9, 2005 4:54 PM

» sophie86 - American Pageant?

In response to Sanitized Version posted by Mugwump53:
Do you happen to own or have read the American Pageant United States History text book? Your posts seem to convey much of the information that they provide. If you don't own it, I highly suggest you purchase one; its extremely well-written and informative.

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