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» Sonni - Yesterday I sat in amazement in the new park not far from my hom
Yesterday I sat in amazement in the new park not far from my home - in lower Manhattan, alongside the Husdon River. The person who designed this park did his or her homework very well -- and all kinds of gorgeous colors are juxtaposed together in very different schemes.One of the amazing plants was something I have never seen before -- and not sure if it's considered a shade plant or not - annual or perrenial.
It creeps like a vine in all directions -- spilling over and under benches -- it has very large almost oak like acid green (light) leaves, but I didn't notice any tendrils. But I assume it was a vine by the way it traveled the floor. I keep looking online to find a picture of it to identify it but can't so far.
It looked so wonderful next to purple coleus, hydrandea Quercifolio and a shrub like I think might be called a Chinoki Cypress (???).... a conifer with yellow needles that look like sparklers going off.
This garden inspired me so much as I continue trial and error on my terrace (31 flights up)....
I was also inspired by the pictures of Marge's garden just posted.
Can anyone help with any suggestions? I don't care if you are wrong - - anything will help.... or know where I can go browse by description?
Thanks a million and happy Fall!
Sonni Lap
-- posted by Sonni
» CarolWallace - I'll just take a wild guess -<a href="http://www.glasshouseworks
I'll just take a wild guess - Ipomeoa batatas "Margarita' is a vine with wonderful chartruese leaves that will creep and twine around plants in a bed. It has no tendrils, looks breat in hanging baskets but I've always just planted it in the ground and let it wander. <img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left>
Carol
virtually gardening
-- posted by CarolWallace
» Gay_Klok - There is also a Lonicera [honeysuckle] with lime yellow leaves.
There is also a Lonicera [honeysuckle] with lime yellow leaves. I will try to find a picture on line. <img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/2779/Su101pea.jpg"align=left>Come for a stroll in my gardens
Tasmanian Garden Journal
-- posted by Gay_Klok
» Cottage_Garden - Maybe it's golden hops? It travels like that -- just seems to f
Maybe it's golden hops? It travels like that -- just seems to flow.Barbara Martin
The Cottage Garden Editor
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» Sonni - Thanks so much for your quick response. I'll have to check the h
Thanks so much for your quick response. I'll have to check the hops pictures to know if that's it. After posting, I had a funny dream with latin-type names repeating over and over -- as if I learned the name in my dream! But alas, waking up provided a memory loss.... ha ha.In the meantime, I will try to get to that garden this week after work and photograph the plant. It is so sensational that it is worth it. Perhaps Marge will be kind enough to let me post this picture are well. I would love to share the setting anyway. This park will be winter bound soon. I think I will take a cutting of this plant -- I don't think anyone will complain.
Hopefully, I'll get that picture here within this week.
Regards, Sonni
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» Marge_Talt - Hi Sonni, I'm really glad that Carol, Barbara and Gay chimed
Hi Sonni,I'm really glad that Carol, Barbara and Gay chimed in as I haven't an earthly on this one:-)
here's a photo of the golden hops - scroll down, it's the second photo on this page...doesn't seem very oak-leaf like, more, as the article says, maple leaf like.
If you get a photo, I'd be delighted to put it up on a page for you....or even in one of the posts here on the discussion...think I can do that. Just let me know if you can scan and send as an email attachement or you need me to scan it for you. I'm dying to see what it is, myself!
Marge
Gardening in Shade
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» CarolWallace - Golden hops grows wild here in my yard. But it has never flower
Golden hops grows wild here in my yard. But it has never flowered for me. Does a great job of climbing trees, though. <img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left>
Carol
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» Gay_Klok - Sonni, Please show us - we are fascinated with your praising
Sonni,Please show us - we are fascinated with your praising it so much
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» Deb_TT - I am interested to know if it is a golden hops also. I picked on
I am interested to know if it is a golden hops also. I picked one up at a Farmer's Market and haven't planted it yet, still trying to decide where it should go. The foliage is great and can't wait to see what it looks like as it matures!Debra Teachout-Teashon
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» Sonni - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU CAROL WALLACE! I believe you are r
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU CAROL WALLACE! I believe you are right! - Ipomeoa batatas "Margarita' - the picture you have included in your post looks so much like this plant, that I'm sure that is it. It looks even better in "real life"..... but the shape and color seem exact. I'm so excited. I really love this plant and would like to know all about it.Thanks to everyone who piped in. Please see Carol's "I'll take a wild guess". I will still go down and photograph this garden for the group, and include this plant.
Can you tell us more about it? Is it an annual, a perrenial? I'm in NYC - zone 5-6 ish.
Thanks again everybody. You've made my day. I hate smiley faces -- but can't help it! 
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» CarolWallace - Sonni, Ipomoeas are members of the sweet potato family - orname
Sonni, Ipomoeas are members of the sweet potato family - ornamental ones.I am in zone 6, and have always grown them as annuals. Sometimes they actually form a tuber which can be stored over the winter and replanted, but I just had to dig the neighbor's two up because she had some construction work done, and neither had tubers yet.They are, however, very easy to start from cuttings, which is how I plan to hang on to my three. I have the black form, the chartreuse and a pink, green and white variety - all lovely! <img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left>
Carol
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» LadyB - Good Gawd, it IS a sweet potato!! I had the black one one year a
Good Gawd, it IS a sweet potato!! I had the black one one year and was told it had to be treated as an annual. Nobody mentioned the possibility of a tuber...hmmm...And they don't really flower, (that I know of...) so snatching seeds is out, huh?Well, Sonni, off you go to the Bronx Botanical Garden, I bet THEY'll know where to find them, but DOOOOOO let us know how you make out with the cuttings!
Lady B, Weeds and Wild Things Cold Spring, New York
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» Marge_Talt - Carol, I just got 'Blackie' for the first time this year. I
Carol,I just got 'Blackie' for the first time this year. I got two - one is in a big pot with other things and the other is in the ground.
What happens if you just cut them back hard and bring them in (if in a pot) or dig them up and pot them up? Do they need warmth or a cool spot to winter over? Do they ever actually go dormant?
Marge
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» Sonni - And now for the relevant question: are these "Margaritas" at hom
And now for the relevant question: are these "Margaritas" at home in partial shade?By the way, they aren't in the Bronx Botanical Gardens... they are in a garden downtown in Wagner Park, on the Hudson in lower Manhattan.
I just purchased rooting hormone and you know what I am about to use it for....
In my understanding, these cuttings are taken in and grown indoors during the Winter. Is that correct?
Thanks again for continued imput.
Regards, Sonni
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» CarolWallace - Here's what I plan on doing - taking cuttings from the larger pl
Here's what I plan on doing - taking cuttings from the larger plants for insurance, and digging up the plants and bringing them is as houseplants if I can find room. Since a couple of mine got to be about 8' long, I'll have to cut them back - but those cuttings are what I'll be rooting to make more. Last year I tried to just store the tuber to replant in spring, but my husband accidentally threw it out - so I figure these methods will be safer.<img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left>
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» Sonni - Down by the Riverside..... This morning I jumped out of bed, h
Down by the Riverside.....This morning I jumped out of bed, hopped on the subway and went downtown to the Wagner Park gardens. After taking my photos, I saw one of the horticulturists working on the plants. What luck! I told her how I had to ask people on the internet for the name of Ipomeoa batatas "Margarita' . I had seen the "black" version there as well. There was a big pot filled with the black and green and rosemary in the center. It was pretty awesome. The woman said that these "sweet potato plants" actually grow edible sweet potatoes.
I told her I was trying to write an article on my experience in the garden, and she sent me off to the Battery Park City Authority Parks Division to obtain a list of all the plants in the entire area. (No pics - just latin and common names and planting areas listed). She said the person who picked out all of the plants and designed the garden is named Linden Miller.
They purchased the plants in Long Island, New York.
I took the list and look forward to reading it. I dropped the film off to be developed today. I realize some of these garden scenes are not really shade garden plants.....some are.
There was another very interesting plant there that I am now looking into. The horticulturist said it is called something like "Euphoebia"..... and it is a perrenial. It grows like a long tube, silver blue... anyway, that's my next research. What a wild looking plant and fascinating habit.
Did I mention I now have 2 cuttings from "Margarita" in green? I am a very happy camper.
Best regards, Sonni ....
-- posted by Sonni
» CarolWallace - Not an entirely inappropriate mistake, Sonni - you sound pretty
Not an entirely inappropriate mistake, Sonni - you sound pretty euphoric over those cuttings you got. ;-)But you say your Euphorbia is "Fireglow" and it's blue?? The blue euphorbia I have is myrsinites - the griffithii I have are brown-stemmed with red veins and orange bracts. <img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left>
Carol
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» Sonni - Carol - Forgive me, I made a mistake. I read the list wrong. I d
Carol - Forgive me, I made a mistake. I read the list wrong. I don't know what kind of Euphorbia it is. I understand there are over 200! More research for me! If I can scan the photo, I'll post it as a new topic; don't even know if it is a shade plant..hope it is... and I don't want anyone to get mad at me....I'm sending Marge a picture of the 2 varieties of Sweet Potato. Hopefully she will post it and everyone who was following this thread can see how beautiful it looks in a big pot. I'm happy. Regards, Sonni.
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» LadyB - Ah, Linden Miller -- the BIG guns of garden design in this neck
Ah, Linden Miller -- the BIG guns of garden design in this neck of the woods. She has QUITE an eye, I understand.I also have Euphorbia myrsinites and it looks like a long blue pinecone....they're happiest in full sun, but I have a whole group of them in a part-shade rock garden doing just beautifully.
How good of those folks to give you the complete list, although it would be real neighborly to have it a bit more available than trucking down to the Park Authority!
Looking forward to the photos...
Lady B, Weeds and Wild Things Cold Spring, New York
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» Sonni - This list is superb! Thanks Barbara.... any suggestions for wher
This list is superb! Thanks Barbara.... any suggestions for where to purchase the Euphorbia?Oddly enough, while looking for this plant online, I came across this web site which lists Beds and Borders. This is one place mentioned by the Battery Park people as a source for their plants. However, it is a wholesale nursery.
I'm sure this site has been posted at some point. The article I was reading regarded containers.
(a past obsession, as Marge may remember!)
http://www.hortmag.com/cgi-
-- posted by Sonni
» Marge_Talt - Sonni, I can send you a <i>Euphorbia myrsinites</i> - no prob
Sonni,I can send you a Euphorbia myrsinites - no problem. Email me your snail mail address if you want one (don't post it) - just reimburse postage. It would do quite well in a container for you on the sunnier part of your balcony.
E. griffithii 'Fireglow' would, I think, get too large to be happy in a container unless it was a super huge one. When I grew it, it got close to three feet (1m) tall, with a tendency to flop a bit. Lovely coloring, however.
Marge
Gardening in
Shade
-- posted by Marge_Talt
» Sonni - It looks like one thing leads to another. The site I've listed b
It looks like one thing leads to another. The site I've listed brings us back to the Ipoemia batatas.... and what is substituted. Looks like you can order from this site also.A complete circle. Again, the site address is:
http://www.hortmag.com/cgi-
and the article is under "containers"
Regards, Sonni
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» LadyB - Sonni, I have them coming out of my ears also! (the Euphorbias)
Sonni, I have them coming out of my ears also! (the Euphorbias) And if you feel like hopping a train up from the city to Cold Spring, you could take one home with you.....E-mail me!Lady B, Weeds and Wild Things Cold Spring, New York
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» CarolWallace - Are you referring to the helichrysum, Sonni? I'm using a couple
Are you referring to the helichrysum, Sonni? I'm using a couple versions of that in my garden, too, and I love it. I have 'Limelight' adding a bit of zing to a grouping of blue fescues and dusty colored sedum, and the plain silvery version is doing a fabulous job of weaving together several other silver plants, Ipomoea batatas 'Blackie' and pale pink geraniums. Neither have burnt even though they are in full sun. <img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left>
Carol
virtually gardening
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» Cottage_Garden - Sorry to jump in so late, but I have to say I personally don't l
Sorry to jump in so late, but I have to say I personally don't like the spikey unclipped rosemaries in the containers. They are not substantial enough to balance the weight of the stairs -- let alone the swirling masses of lush vinery in the same containers. Perhaps if they had been trimmed into tight ball shaped topiaries as a contrasting form but... Just my opinion.Barbara Martin
The Cottage Garden Editor
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» LadyB - I'm trying to think if I've ever done helichrysum in the shade.
I'm trying to think if I've ever done helichrysum in the shade. I can't believe the 'limelight' wouldn't burn in full sun, though...interesting.I have a rather flat-growing but VERY silver Helichrysum 'Moe's Gold' making a ground cover in the Moon Garden and the more common grey Helichrysum just CARRYING the show in huge pots on the back patio of the main house. They seem to get a little leaf-miner-y late in the summer, but other than that behave VERY well.
Lady B, Weeds and Wild Things Cold Spring, New York
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» Cottage_Garden - Lady B -- how hot does it get where your containers are? Helich
Lady B -- how hot does it get where your containers are? Helichrysum always scorches at my house (hot south slope full sun crummy dirt and lousy care) but I do see it around town on eastern exposures with TLC. Meaning water and fertilizer ( probably MiracleGro) on a regular like clockwork basis -- not what they get at my house! ;)Barbara Martin
The Cottage Garden Editor
-- posted by Cottage_Garden
» CarolWallace - Mine are in the ground in full sun in an area that I probably wa
Mine are in the ground in full sun in an area that I probably watered about three times all summer - and they look glorious! These are the plain silver ones. The 'Limelight" is also in full sun, but in clay soil that got watered a bit more often. No sunburn, but not nearly as much growth.<img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left>
Carol
virtually gardening
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